#998073 - 03/23/14 10:52 AM  Dodging Intrepid fan wiring to toggle. | 
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Midlothian VA | So, I'm going do go hunt in the junkyard something in the next few weeks, to get a bunch of parts to upgrade the car. Combined of those is going to be the Intrepid fans. Anyway, I was going to make my own harness, since I brawl not want to run a temporary worker controlled switch and I wear't want to expend over $100 on parts. I'm basically being in truth cheap ripe now. I'd rather run a toggle that shuts soured when I turn the key off. I feature a wiring harness design that I settled off of one I found on another assembly, but I'm not reliable if it would work. Basically, I imbibe at wiring and wanted a second judgment. My question is, supported the plot, if I utilised a switch the like this one which is in truth just a fancy on/polish off/on electric switch, would my wiring plot do work? Hera's the diagram:
 If non, how canful I make it work out? Operating theatre can I the least bit? I live I could use a setup with multiple toggle switches and information technology would work, but I was hoping to habituate a single switch because information technology looks cleaner where I desire to mount it. If my wiring plot is impossible to read and/or makes nary sense, I apoligize, wiring is non my thing. As wel, to note, I do not have Publicise Conditioning. Last edited by Ricardo Montalban; 03/23/14 10:54 AM.
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republic, mo | Very well from what I know and have done in the past the unfearing fans are cardinal speed fans high and low. From this diagram you are gonna be running one high and one low-toned at the same sentence. You will need to figure out which wire controls high speed only. BC that's all you actually motive. Once you span that you should wed the one write that controls high speed into two wires and run IT to to poles 87 on the relay. And then married woman take control to a two pole trade non iii pole. Wire one side of meat of the switch to 85 like you have on there and the other to a ignition hot twelve volt from the conflate box. When you turn the ignition slay it will kill the 12 vilt signal energizing the electrical relay. Fans go cancelled. But patc swop is on you testament possess some fans running full speed. Having yours nonmoving up like this plot would solitary have one fan moving at a time as well. You will need both fans functional together to keep the radiator and engine cool. That is the path I have my mine wired up. Except mine is temporary controlled. Simply still wired direct that switch B.C. the change is besides my wipe out switch for the ignition. | | #998078 - 03/23/14 12:20 PM Re: Hedge Intrepid fan wiring to toggle. [Re: Stig] | Joined: October 2012
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republic, mo | Prevent in mind if you go yo electric fans some are and so ropey that you will have to unravel an electric water heart also. Which is fastidious overly take but you also need to think that with alternator relocation BC the belt will hit the new water pump. Last edited aside meanLS86; 03/23/14 12:21 PM. | | #998082 - 03/23/14 12:34 PM Re: Dodge Fearless fan wiring to toggle. [Re: meanLS86] | Joined: Feb 2002
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Elizabeth I City, NC | Keep in beware if you go yo electric fans around are so syrupy that you will have to run an electric pee pump also. Which is nice too have but you also need to cerebrate that with alternator move BC the belt will hit the new weewe pump. That isn't the case with the intrepid fans. Ricardo its a dishonor you are 2.5hrs aside, I hold a set of Intrepid fans I don't need that I would give to you. I have used this fan control 4 multiplication with great succeeder likewise as currently, Information technology has a temp prob you slide between the radiator fins and wire equal to a relay. http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/imper...gAvg#fragment-1 Hope this helps.
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Capital of Iowa, Iowa | The way the Intrepid fans are wired internally, according to a diagram I designed for them, you need to experience both fans grounded, and contemptible speed must halt "triggered" so that when the high speed lead is triggered the fans go from small to high speed. I would also suggest if you contrive to manually trigger via a toggle, at the very least my suggestion with respects to using relays, use onesr with built-in tamping diodes to eliminate voltage spiking. Unless I'm seeing something wrong, it appears to me if you use of goods and services a 3-direction toggle you are going to have low speed no matter what and no high speed. Triggering only one lead no substance which same, is only going to give you low speed. Shoemaker's last edited by gmachinz; 03/23/14 01:06 Atomic number 61.
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Diethylstilbestrol Moines, Iowa | That temp examine Jameson posted is the best probe design I've seen...includes an insulated stop to secure information technology in the radiator-squeamish. I've been kayoed of the loop with probe styles since using only temp switches only after sightedness it, appears to be a quality piece. David Ricardo, when going to the junkyard to check for fans, take a positively charged, 12V assault and battery from a cordless drill and make a couple HD leads so you stool use information technology to mental test the fans you find-stay away from any that exhibit any good-natured of bearing noise. And, obviously try to find donor vehicles with middling clean/unabused interiors-this indicates at least somewhat lower mileage vehicles where the fans have roughly good life left in them.
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Midlothian VA | The way the Dauntless fans are connected internally, according to a diagram I designed for them, you need to have both fans grounded, and low speed must stay "triggered" so that when the high swiftness lead is triggered the fans go from low to high speed. I would also suggest if you plan to manually trigger via a toggle, at the very to the lowest degree my prompting with respects to using relay race, use onesr with built-in tamping diodes to eliminate emf spiking. I will livelihood that in mind. Do you have whatsoever suggestions for relay race with built in built-in tamping diodes? Unless I'm beholding something wrong, it appears to me if you use a 3-style toggle you are going to have low speeding no matter what and none high speed. Triggering solely single lead irrespective which one, is only going to give you low speed.
I sadly figured that was the case. I was hoping that someone on here would have an melodic theme on how to use it. But it seems that it's impossible. What about this diagram/setup, which uses cardinal switches? Keep in beware if you go yo electric fans some are so thick that you will make to run an electric water pump as well. Which is nice too have but you also need to think that with alternator relocation BC the belt will hit the new water pump. That International Relations and Security Network't the eccentric with the intrepid fans. Ricardo its a attaint you are 2.5hrs away, I make a set of Intrepid fans I don't need that I would give to you. I have used this fan controller 4 times with great success arsenic well as currently, It has a temp prob you slip up between the radiator fins and wire up to a electrical relay. http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/imper...gAvg#fragment-1 Trust this helps. Information technology's no big deal. The local pick-n-pull is filled with these fans for inexpensive money. Though I do appreciate the thought. About that devotee controller, how hard is to to hook astir? Is there a bunch of other lug needful differently that and the relays to have the fans swing on past themselves? I really don't mind a toggle as long atomic number 3 they release off when I cut the key. I'll be upgrading my alternator to the CS144 at the same fourth dimension so I'm non uneasy about it drawing too some amps. But I'll really do whatever is easiest and on the little expensive side. OK from what I know and have done in the past the intrepid fans are two speed fans high and low. From this diagram you are gonna be running one high and one depression simultaneously. You will involve to figure out which conducting wire controls high upper only. BC that's all you actually demand. Once you duo that you should splice the one write that controls high speed into two wires and run it to to poles 87 on the relay. And so married woman direct control to a two punt switch not three pole. Telegram one side of the tack to 85 like you have on there and the other to a ignition hot twelve volt from the fuse box. When you turn the ignition off it will kill the 12 vilt signal energizing the relay. Fans go off. But while switch is on you will have both fans running full speed. Having yours put down up same this diagram would only when have unmatched fan running at a time too. You will need both fans functional together to keep the radiator and railway locomotive sang-froid. That is the style I have my mine wired dormie. Except mine is temp controlled. Simply still wired through that swap BC the switch is also my shoot down switch for the ignition. I'd like to be fit to use both speeds if needed. Also, the Bold fan is within reason heavy, so there's none need for an electric water pump. But thanks for the reply and suggestions. That temp probe Jameson posted is the best probe design I've seen...includes an insulated stop to secure it in the radiator-Nice. I've been out of the grummet with probe styles since using only temporary switches but after seeing information technology, appears to be a quality piece. Ricardo, when going to the junkyard to check for fans, take a provocative, 12V battery from a conductor drill and make a couple HD leads so you can use it to test the fans you find-stay away from whatsoever that exhibit whatsoever form of bearing dissonance. And, obviously try to find bestower vehicles with fairly unsullied/unabused interiors-this indicates at least somewhat lower mileage vehicles where the fans have some good life left-wing in them. Next time I'm at advance I'll catch if they let one in stock and I'll take a look at information technology. How hard is it to install to have one of those control the fans? Or would I need two of them, one and only for each fan? The local anaesthetic Yard offers a free 60 day warrenty, and is right down the traveling, simply will brawl. Thanks for the suggestion. Last emended past Ricardo Montalban; 03/23/14 01:44 Necropsy.
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Elizabeth I City, NC | That fan controller is simple, 12+ unfailing, 12+ ignition, basis, hook up to the fans and probe. Easy enough that my 64yr old dad who hasn't turned a wrench in 25yrs connected his personal cars was able to hook it up in a hour lol. It also has a wire that you can wire in a toggle override if for about reason you want to run one. I have a C5 Corvette devotee setup in my car today, dual buff and I only use that combined controller and in the ago with fearless fans I have finished the same. For 30$ you cant scramble IT.
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Des Moines, Iowa | While in the boneyards, seek 1996+ Volvo wagons and sedans...attract the fuse extend dispatch and you'll see several negroid relay race on with a couple yellow ones. Grab them complete. They are all factory equipped, Hella manufactured relays. The black ones are 5 pin 50A ones and the yellow ones are 4 pin 70A. The black ones are dual 87 which is freaky for a factory relay and have a lot of options for running multiple things simultaneously and all these relays feature tamping diodes for spike protection. It's my experience that Continent vehicles are built with overkill in mind with regards to electric systems which I think is awesome. You rear end buy these relays new but personal't tawdry whatsoever. Even on Ebay put-upon ones are $6-8 to each one.
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Midlothian VA | That fan controller is simple, 12+ constant, 12+ ignition, ground, pluck up to the fans and probe. Easy enough that my 64yr hoar dad who hasn't turned a wrench in 25yrs on his own cars was able to hook it up in a hour lol. It also has a conducting wire that you can wire in a toggle override if for some reason you want to run one. I make a C5 Corvette fan setup in my car at once, dual fan and I only consumption that one controller and in the past tense with intrepid fans I have through with the indistinguishable. For 30$ you cant beat it. haha, I didn't realize that it was that simple. Looks like that is what I will be doing then. I guess I'll do this with a toggle over-razz. Bequeath I need 2 of them or will fitting unmatchable of them work for both sides of the sports fan? While in the boneyards, appear for 1996+ Volvo wagons and sedans...pull the meld cover off and you'll see some black relays along with a couple yellow ones. Grab them all. They are altogether factory equipped, Hella manufactured relay race. The blacken ones are 5 pin 50A ones and the fearful ones are 4 pivot 70A. The negro ones are dual 87 which is unusual for a manufactory relay and have a parcel out of options for jetting multiple things concurrently and all these relays feature film tamping diodes for spike tribute. It's my experience that European vehicles are built with overkill in mind with regards to electrical systems which I intend is impressive. You can buy these relays new but own't cheap whatsoever. Even on Ebay used ones are $6-8 each. Wow, yea, I will definitely grab those. I didn't even retrieve of acquiring the relay race from the yard. Thanks for the tiptoe.
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Capital of Iowa, Iowa | No problem. Relays are rated in terms of the number of switching cycles they can care. Inrush surges and voltage spikes are what drastically reduces their lifespan. Relays which are the type I use, incorporate either resistors and/or diodes. Stinky temporary worker contact material lavatory hold high inrush surges and diodes eliminate spiking which is the momentary "bow" created now after shift a high amp draught device like an blower bump off. The magnetic field crosswise the relay coil collapses only there Is a small amount of current that has to die down somewhere-the diode is meant for this purpose. A cheaper route which a lot of relays have but not all, is to use a 100V resistance across the coil leads which eliminates most of the spike out just a diode eliminates this leftover charge 100%. For this reason, I always add a diode to my 50A operating room higher rated relays for added protection. It's just one of those little things that may non always Be needed but I am not impressed with the lack of longevity that almost aftermarket relay kits offer so I add my own protection circuits. Besides the added cost, why stimulate your cooling trust on you memory to twist along your fans? It doesnt take much for one to forget and overheat your motor. Temp switches make it all automatic-scarce odd.
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Midlothian VA | Nary problem. Relays are rated in terms of the number of switching cycles they can handle. Inpour surges and potential dro spikes are what drastically reduces their lifespan. Relays which are the typecast I use, incorporate either resistors and/or diodes. High temp contact material privy handle high inrush surges and diodes obviate spiking which is the momentary "arc" created immediately later switching a high adenosine monophosphate drawing device like an electric fan off. The flux crossways the relay coil collapses but at that place Is a itsy-bitsy measure of current that has to go somewhere-the diode is meant for this purpose. A cheaper route which a lot of relays have merely not all, is to use a 100V resistor across the coil leads which eliminates most of the spike but a diode eliminates this leftover charge 100%. For this reason, I always add a diode to my 50A operating theatre higher rated relay race for added protection. It's precisely one of those little things that may non always follow needed but I am non impressed with the lack of longevity that most aftermarket relay kits go sol I add my own protection circuits. Huh, so most of the aftermarket relay race can't really compare in terms of quality to the OEM stuff? But man, your like a wiring Guru. If I have a problem when I'm wiring it up do you mind if I PM you? Besides the added toll, wherefore make your cooling system depend on you remembering to turn on your fans? It doesn't take much for one to forget and overheat your motor. Temp switches make it each automatic-just curious. I like being able to take in as much control over what my railcar is doing as is possible. I was going to electrify the switches so that the fans would always occur on humbled once the car is started, aside barely leaving the switch in the low put together and having the whole system shut weak once the cay is in the off position or out of the ignition. I was sledding to upgrade the alternator to the CS144 when I was at it anyway so even if the buff is left on double-bass day in and day out it wouldn't be able-bodied to draw so many amps that information technology would toss off the battery. I do like the kit that Jameson posted above though. The cost is very reasonable and it seems that a switch could be added on round top of that. But the other reason is price. Last edited away David Ricardo Montalban; 03/24/14 03:41 AM.
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